A question for my own, because what you’re bringing is these really fundamental principles of open Internet. How has that been taken from the government side, which can be a bit more traditional and classic?

How do you go about doing that? How do you go about building the bridges between different cultural interpretations and getting people at the same level?

How does the feeding back into the stakeholder discussion work? Are there certain points that are programmed?

Was it difficult to get this implemented, by pitching and using Slido, and professionally using it?

Related to that is, because you’re using a lot of technology, does it require that most people are digitally literate, comfortable, and able to use platforms like this?

That’s very interesting. Are there situations where you have to engage only experts or people in the know at a first level, and then go onto a wider community? Have you ever had to do something...?

To drive this forward, what do you think are the biggest enablers? What do you think have been the biggest enablers for you in driving this forward successfully?

How do you do it in a more democratic way? When people raise their issues, how do you choose which ones to prioritize? That must be...

Two, OK.

That’s quite interesting that you get them to the same starting point, and then that becomes your foundation rather than the different positions that they start from.

It’s very interesting because we’ve been within kind of counter public...My boss and I have been kind of thinking about how to measure a city’s engagement. One of the core foundational principles of how we went about it is that trust is a two-way street.

A lot of the discussion and the way it’s measured, globally, is citizen’s trust in government. Often the other part that is left out is how much they feel government trusts them.

You’re keeping an ear to the ground so you can pick up on the signals, and then amplify them?

You mentioned just there that the government has to act, and it makes me wonder to what extent is that binding, to what extent do the government ministries feel they have to act, or how do they integrate that into the way they work?

When you talk about the participation officer’s network, this, I’m guessing, is one of the enablers of citizen engagement?

That you have a structure in place that kind of encourages it.

I’m guessing there’s a lot of exchange of ideas and information across this network as well. It’s not siloed within your ministry or anything.

This network, their core objective is, essentially, to engage citizens in different policy areas that have run into that?

Do they work with you on...?

This network, would they do projects that are, say, independent of your team? If they have specific issues or they...

That’s very interesting. Do you have any sort of approaches that you use to evaluate each of these initiatives?

That’s quite interesting because you say that each case is quite different as it is. How would you define the kind of benchmarks, for want of a better word, or what are your parameters of success for each and how do you define that? How do you see...

Yes, you probably... [laughs]

[laughs] Thank you very much.