40 years. [laughs]

Someone needs to be watching the digital transformation going on in society that knows what they’re talking about. Congratulations to you and your government for this. Let me just tell you a little bit about WITSA and then the World Congress. WITSA’s been around since 1978 which makes us almost...what? ...

As I travel extensively, when I find a person in a high government that’s responsible for digital, the first thing I think about is how wonderful that is number one, and number two, how mature and with wisdom the government has to do this, because it’s required.

First of all, thanks for your time. I have the best job in the world. Next to yours, because she’s the chairperson, so everybody has to follow her, but outside of that, I’ve got the best job in the world.