In the UK, you don’t have any bills. You don’t pay anything when you go into the doctor’s. It’s the same?

It is.

Is the Canada system like the UK system? Or do you have insurance in Canada?

Single-payer?

That’s so good. What is the healthcare system here?

Everyone in the population?

Can I see it?

Is it?

Yes, manga.

Are there manga comic book drawers...?

That’s great. Is it well-balanced between people or does it feel very...?

I would like to go, because we were talking about doing something similar.

Can you send me the details?

What’s Saturday?

Yes, my husband is coming in.

There are also many that are frustrated with the categorization of art. It’s cornered into this futile box. I think, for some, it’s more important to be part of something that makes change, instead of the authorship.

S-T-R-E-L-K-A. Benjamin Bratton is the director. There’s a whole crowd that struggles with the arts community, they see the futility in it. I went to the Royal College of Art in Design Interactions, which doesn’t exist anymore, but like Strelka and some other programs out there, a multi-disciplinary and collaborative ...

No, not graffiti artists. The more people that work with social issues or climate. Do you know Strelka or Benjamin...?

Myself and a lot of other people in my artistic network, although we’re not really the kind that...well, some of them sell in galleries and are part of that whole circuit, but most of us are more interested in making change, building connections to build projects, rather than authorship.

Yeah, a good example of creatives collaborating is with the filmmaking community. Even though there’s often one big name, such as a director, it’s a very collaborative process. I know myself and a lot of others...

I agree. It would be really good to try and amplify some of these examples and other stories. Is the community, the artists and poets, the cultural community, involved in the design?

Also, if there is a way to implement quadratic voting and quadratic funding for such projects.

Ys, true. It would be good to have some kind of protocol for when projects come to us, to make it an easy way of mapping what we choose to support or develop and what we don’t.

Yes, definitely, an example are the MIDs or Mediators of Individual Data. Otherwise referred to as Data Co-ops.

Yes we are!

That’s unfortunate. We have discussed whether, maybe in the future, RxC could operate as a co-op.

Really?

Yes, so there’s a lot of cross-collaboration and cross-discussions with like-minded preople and groups, which is really what we need. What we would really like to see are more co-ops.

Matt, RxC’s President is working with, collaboratively, on a handbook for local government officials, particularly mayors, so they can better grasp and implement RadicalxChange ideas.

We’re actually collaborating with some members of the Platform Cooperativism Movement.

He’s very interested in artistic and design projects like we are talking about, that are more focused on social innovation.

Yes, the Ministry of Culture.

Did you see the...? No, you maybe left already. There was someone from the Cultural...

Last night was predominantly blockchain people, correct?

That would be great.

Superstition? Or using art and...

Is he well-received?

Oh, right, the one that came out recently?

You did?

Do you have any ideas, as a board member, on driving it forward?

Do you want to talk about RadicalxChange?

Yes.

Yes.

It’s ETH. They say E-T-ha. In Europe, architects and designers have moved away, since at least a decade, from being focused just on making objects and buildings and more on social change, in the way you are describing.

Do you know the university ETH in Zurich?

How’s it going?

I’d love to learn more about what you’re doing and how you’re making everything transparent.

She’s working with the UN already on the sustainable goals. I am wearing the pin you gave me.

Yes! Also, I spoke to Mary Ellen last night so she’s...It’s 2:00 AM for her right now, so we can’t speak with her now but she definitely would like to speak.

Oh, great.