Is it OK if I make some notes and maybe record?

Will you be publishing something as well? [laughs]

Is that how you do it?

I hope that’s not 4,000 journalists. [laughs]

A lot of it is with members of the public or…

It sounds like it. Actually, every word I say is going to be published, is it?

Maybe I better be careful [laughs] what I say.

That’s very kind. In theory, I might be trying to do an article for this for the BBC for a radio program, but that would be for sometime next week.

Should I let you approve what I put out?

I just want to make sure what the rules are here.

[laughs]

They’re very precious, so it’s very kind of you. [laughs] Thank you so much. I’m sorry. I guess you’ve probably got better things you should be doing.

How much of your time do you actually spend in your office? How much time do you manage to…?

No, just working in an office as opposed to be outside and doing different things.

Where is that?

Can I ask you what you were doing in Pingtung…

…meeting local people…

How often do they do that kind of conference?

Sorry. From 12 ministries and departments?

Oh, really? [laughs]

With that kind of contact with people, the idea is to feed back the public concerns or suggestions?

For example, since you mentioned this example, clam and oyster farming. What was the issue?

They’re trying to promote it to the government…

This is schools, you’re saying.

Sorry. Who are the people? These are just ordinary local people, or these are the school kids?

What, you get a box, and do you just put it in the water?

I’m not very good on technology.

This was just introduced this year.

Is that having much impact?

Have there been some factories already cut off?

I had not heard about it.

Sorry. This year’s Presidential Hackathon?

So that was an idea that came out of this.

Is that an annual thing?

This started when?

Last year, OK.

I know. Which used to be a prison, right?

You mean because the nurse is not qualified on her own?

Changed the law?

The whole thing is voted on by the public?

I was just going to ask how does it work, if it’s not too complicated.

I’ve heard about that.

That’s 10 million in a year?

10 million unique visitors?

Exponential.

Could you put all your points on one thing?

You have to use them up?

Can I take a picture with your screen?

Your idea is to push people to look at more different things.

For example, last year in the Hackathon, how many members of the public voted in that?