People read them, right?

Yeah.

I’ll have to get one to you.

Very good.

Red Hat Academy is where we provide the Red Hat tools to universities free of charge to allow them to incorporate that into their curriculum.

I’m not sure if the Red Hat Academy is here.

Everything that we do in labs, at Red Hat, so that open source is more than code, it’s culture. All of the practices that we use in labs, we open source as well. I’ll go and have a look at your open policy...

All of our practices are also open source. If you have a look, there’s something called the open practice library.

I think one thing that we can share with you is Red Hat Innovation Labs, open innovation labs. We basically work with clients, small teams of clients to help drive change within the organization. More than just the Red Hat products but also all the other open source and commercial ...

I’ll look out for that.

Is it? I’ve been away for a long time.

I can’t imagine Australia is doing much of this either.

What sort of methods or approaches do they use? I know it’s voluntary association, so you’re not going in there and telling them to do it. What methods do they use within their departments? Are they standardized or all they all...?

These liaison people that you’ve borrowed from these departments, when they go back to a department with an idea, do they have a team of people within their...

That is wonderful. I’ve been really interested to understand this. How is the fast-paced work that you’re doing sitting the rest of the public service, in the more traditional departments?