Open source. That’s right. We met there.

There’s a point, up until about five years ago, I knew every startup and every founder in Wellington. You’ve been to Wellington?

With the proceeds, I’ve been doing angel investments, and helping other startups, and building the startup ecosystem in Wellington in New Zealand. Since 2002 when I started doing that, it’s just completely mushroomed and blossomed.

Anyway, I started a startup in the early ’90s during Internet systems integration. My wife and I started this business. Started in our garage, grew it to 40 people in Wellington and Auckland, and then sold it to a multinational accounting firm.

Yeah, naturalized. I’ll always feel not quite completely there. But I tell my kids, "I’m more Kiwi than you are. I been here longer." They just laugh at me. When the current regime looked like it was going to take over in the States, I thought, "Well, I really don’t ...

I’m a not native Kiwi.

My own history is in the IT industry. I’m a dev by trade, started programming when I was 11 years old. I grew up in the States, in Los Angeles, emigrating to New Zealand on 1982. I’ve been there for around 35 years. I actually got rid of my US ...

Just give you a little background on myself, I’ve been working with the Service Innovation Lab at the Department of Internal Affairs. Pia invited me into the group. I’ve been doing stuff on and off there as a consultant part time, generally between one and two days a week since ...

First off, I bring greetings for Pia and the team.

Silicon Valley is so yesterday.

It’s amazing. Every time, it’s still fresh. It’s really interesting, just the different constellations of people. Some projects go nowhere, and other projects head off in expected and really interesting directions. Other ones just go...

It’s been going strong for a long time.

A couple, yeah.

I have, yeah.

Yeah, so, Kiwi Foo. I’m sorry I couldn’t make it.

I’m good, thanks.