If you go look at that, that means they’re not paying attention to it. The second problem is, when I bring startups into the [Mandarin] , they can’t really work with them.

I bring ABCs to them, because they can try, or we bring…One of the things we’ve been talking about at the MOST is about bringing internships in, and who can bridge the language gap. It’s great for the Taiwan students, because they’re forced to speak with a foreigner.

Then they’ve got to speak with the, they’ve got to do that bridging. I think it’s great. You learn what they’re doing.

Yeah, I had one.

Yeah, I brought him in, because he was great at…He did an NLP for me.

I left the kid alone and came back a couple weeks later. I said, “What’d you do?” He’s like, “Uh…” I said, “Well, it’s up to you. Your job is to get it done. How you do it, where you go…” I said, “Here’s GitHub. Here’s…”

You don’t know what GitHub, because they didn’t teach this stuff in the school. It’s sad that…I lecture at [Mandarin] about, on the future of living in 2030. It’s surprising that, how many people have never seen Sophia.

I show the videos, like, “How many have seen Sophia…How many have seen Boston Dynamics robots?” The number of kids who haven’t seen that was surprisingly scary, but I went to Fuxing [Mandarin] , and I asked probably third or fourth-graders. They’d all seen it. [laughs]

That’s Fuxing. It wasn’t in [Mandarin]. If you go back to [Mandarin], they would all have known about it. We’ve got this problem. The good…

See? Yeah. If I had to, and asked about Pokémon, they would have.

I always ask people, “Have you ever played AR?” They don’t know. “I’ve never played AR.” It’s like, “Did you play Pokémon Go?” “Yeah.” “OK, that’s AR.”

[laughs] “You already played AR, and you’ve been using it for,” on his bicycle for 18 phones. That’s a phone, grandpa. It’s like, world’s number one AR user. That’s the caption I wanted to put on. [laughs]

Cool. I know you’re a busy guy.

Yeah, really appreciate it.

If you want, I can you show my…I have my own avatar.

I have a 3D scan of me.

Full, sub-millimeter accurate.

I’ll have my avatar call your avatar.

I coached there last week.

XRSpace, we were Kaohsiung two weeks ago.

I did the coaching for them, XRSpace came in and did two days of coaching.

Really?

Just for that, I’m going to call him after this. I’m going to have him take mine. Whenever I speak, I wear the same shirt. I have this in three colors. I have this in three colors. When you see that, you go, “Oh, he’s wearing that same thing today.”

When I’m on the stage, I wear the blue.

This is an NFC payment ring.

The problem is he doesn’t know marketing, so that’s really sad.

Then this is the OR ring.

No, we need people to come in and help, occasionally speak, occasionally record something for the kids. Maybe if we could get, I think, something later on, when we start going out to the kids, is to have a pre-recorded from you.

Really trying to help the kids understand the fear, get past. When I talked to her originally, she said, “Oh, my parents said if you’re [Mandarin] , it’s OK.” It’s like, you’ve got to respect the parents and say, “No, that is not correct.”

It’s OK if you’re [Mandarin]. You’ve got to go into something else, but you can’t just say that, because you’ve got to…The logic is the future of the world. If you don’t understand emoji, then even if you’re an artist…

I have a great friend in Berlin who is a great fine art artist. He’s going into abstracts. The only way to do that was through an AI muse, because he was trained as a pure artist, so he can’t break into that field. Even though he’s a pure artist, he needed math from somebody else to become what he really wanted to be.

I don’t need it.

Right. I did a talk a year ago on Taiwan’s education system. People are saying that, in Taiwan, [Mandarin] gives you a certain kind of…

…gives a certain kid, and they work very well in factories, because they’re used to [Mandarin]. Being in a factory, they do very well, but we don’t have innovation, because they were never taught that.

Yeah, I heard you’re trying to do. The problem is the teachers and the curriculum, not the students. I believe that, between…If you look at Barcelona football, they recruit at nine years old.

The reason they recruit at 9 is, by the time you’re 18, you already know you can write a Perl script to do your high school homework. You don’t have to. You can write the…You don’t need to do a…The other class they don’t teach here is how to google.

I asked the [Mandarin]. I said, “The number one thing you should teach here,” I mean at any school. American schools, they teach it. At Kaohsiung and [Mandarin], they teach a class on…

If-then-else. You can do all this stuff in Google, but people don’t realize it. I think that’s really…I don’t think we should change our education system that much, because there is a market for this. I think we should work within the system and create this economy of coding machiners.

Not just coding, but I mean everybody around the AI field. Women do better, I think, at medical. They’re going to do much better at education AI. They’re going to do much better at…Actually, I’m working on a fashion AI thing right now.

What we’re trying to do, honestly – I have to kill all of you now – what we’re trying to do is take a Lego approach, because the fabric fits a certain way. We know how the fabric fits, I’m sorry, how a pattern fits.

We tell the designer, “This is what you can do.” We give them building blocks. We give them building blocks to build, and then most of the costs, all that stuff that a real professional knows we’re hiding from them. We’re actually, our first person is a 10-year-old.

Yeah, he’s a really smart kid.

He knows fashion. He knows the industry. He’s got his own Instagram, and I mean a good Instagram, not just…He knows social media really well. His father’s my high school classmate. I talk to the kid all the time, because he has this natural ability to understand fashion. For a young boy to really understand fashion is not easy. For a young boy to care about fashion is not, so he’s breaking all these norms.

His parents are really supporting him. We’re supporting him, trying to develop a way for him to become a designer without him going to…I teach at Beijing [Mandarin], so I don’t want him to take my 25-year class. How can he actually design stuff that he likes?

It’s not about the economy. We’re not trying to sell stuff. If he sells something that’s great, but it’s about building up…

…the taste, and his ability to get his ideas promoted.

Well, I wanted, yeah. I think young men today are becoming much more aware of fashion, and so it’s good. I think we’re getting this blend now that’s something that, unfortunately, I’ve spent my life doing. It’s not something that the social norms, and especially you.

When I did my coding company, we wanted to sell these programs to the teachers, but they didn’t have the experience. It wasn’t that, we could only go school-to-school. We couldn’t actually leave it at the school.

Yeah.

Now, we need people coming out of college who are not Google-qualified coders, but understand coding, to teach the young ones.