Its Mandarin name is very similar to the movie’s title, it went quite popular for a while. People kept telling me that I should hire Michelle Yeoh, the actress, to head that division.
It’s very silly. We’ve got a Department of Democracy Network within moda now. Within that department, there’s a division dedicated for we would call it Plurality, or web3-enabled decentralized social technology.
It gets very silly.
Yes?
People keep telling me that I should see it, but no.
Not just document, but to keep it alive.
There’s a couple bookstore in Taipei that tries to snapshot that moment and transport it here, run by Hong Kong expats and with the Hong Kong community currently in Taipei. Have you been there?
What brought you to Hong Kong?
Wow.
I don’t know about that, but there’s people who participated in both.
It’s immediately before. Some of the people who participated in Sunflower happened to be visiting Hong Kong sharing some of the Sunflower stories when Umbrella happened.
Providing broadband service, yeah.
Sure. I don’t know about that particular incidence for sure, but similar stories were the prompt during the Sunflower Movement in 2014 to say that, if we use PRC’s so-called private sector product in our telecommunication – at the time not 5G – 4G infrastructure, then it cost a lot ...
I think that’s it.
Yeah, I think in one of the servers used by public cloud services. It was long ago.
Which one?
Yeah.
There’s an area that we may excel in cyber security, the semiconductor supply chain. The E187 semiconductor supply chain cybersecurity standard came from Taiwan, and we’re trying to export that in the sense of mutually compatible lab…
The US team is pretty good. Yeah, we’re doubling down on cybersecurity.
It is, with Trend Micro and so on. There’s also a new, young generation who consistently places second in DEFCON CTF, right after the US team, of course.
Yes.
Right now we’re pretty resilient, with all those zero-days we had to deal with, hybrid cognitive warfare, you name it. So it’s exactly like earthquakes.
We know that it’s foreign because foreign packets travels through submarine cables somewhere. It could be a botnet.
Port scanning and so on, things that are actually recorded by the log.
And maybe three felt ones, same as earthquakes. [laughs]
I don’t know… We field a million or so cyberattacks every day.
We had an earthquake in ‘99, really, really bad. We, of course, still build buildings after that. It’s not like we don’t build buildings because of earthquakes. We’ve just got to build with resilience in mind.
Eventually.
A big earthquake is going to come…
The same as earthquakes.
If you’d arrived just a week earlier, I think you would have experienced three.
Noah, you narrowly missed them.
Three weeks ago?
The eastern side’s got more natural earthquakes.
On average, there’s three felt earthquakes per day in Taiwan somewhere.
Around the turn of the century in 1999. Not as bad as Tōhoku – without the nuclear plant situation – but in some places almost as bad.
Not that one.
Really, really bad. Some of them much worse than…
Ah, sorry. [laughs]
Earthquakes?
Afterwards, feel free to have more open conversation with John here. [laughs]
We’ve got an entire hour.
It’s time to build.
And more.
Build back better.
[laughs]
A little bit.
There’s that, and then there’s this whole diversity. It’s beyond just tolerance, it’s collaborative diversity, and people celebrate the diversity here.
Yep.
