The thing is that we provide the whole blueprint, and we help to make that happen. All you have to provide is the water, electricity, and land, and that’s it. Then we work with the local partner to transfer.
Exactly.
That is the main differentiator of the Taiwan-produced masks and PRC and other places-produced mask. Also, the whole automation part of it, that you don’t have to retrain a lot of staff. That is also important.
Of course, using sufficient amount of human involvement, of course, you can manufacture it quite well. To manufacture it so that it doesn’t degrade so quickly with time, that is actually quite advanced technology.
That’s the kind of position, for example, Germany has in many other industries, many other verticals. Taiwan has had that capability for a very long time, but that was not very well internationally known in many verticals. This is a good chance for us to export this design model out.
As far as we know, we’re the only one doing this. It’s a good reason, because we want to share this know-how out of international solidarity. Frankly speaking, it’s a good business decision, because then it elevates Taiwan from just a manufacturer to a designer of smart machinery, workflow systems, ...
I don’t know. You would probably have to ask Champ Mask.
Exactly. You own your own production.
This kind of micro factory, I think, will reach an even wider international audience, compared to the medical masks themselves.
Even though they are many jurisdictions that already got coronavirus in control, they would probably not want to rely on overseas support all the time if the next wave happens, especially now that we have not yet designed a vaccine yet.
Yeah. They work with many other companies. Of course, we already got inquiries from the US, Germany, French, Spain, South Africa, and so on, but the whole idea of exporting this whole micro factory, I think, will elicit an even higher response.
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They’re helping to make other jurisdictions more interested in this kind of self-sufficient, smart machinery for strategic supplies and things like that. We’re very happy to share that as well.
This is the sort of technology that helped the PRC to, after the late ‘80s, to gain their own logistics chain. That is largely from Taiwan. The original designers, they’re all still around. They’re still in Taiwan.
This kind of social innovation is backed by the Made in Taiwan infrastructure that we’re heavily exporting to the entire world. I think that will lead not only to the ordering of the masks themselves as products, but actually the know-how of how to build such a logistic chain in ...
This is also good for creative industry. What we’re getting at is that this builds a new culture, because it’s a social signal that I’m watching my hands properly, I’m not touching my face, and it reminds other people to do the same.
Yeah, that’s right. This is a designer covering on top of it to make it more beautiful.
It’s high quality. If you’re interested in providing them to your ordinary citizens, not only your nurses and doctors – which is an old concept – the advantage is that you can wear this all day.
We’re offering medical masks dedicated by Taiwanese people for their uncollected mask order for international humanitarian aid for the people who are doctors and nurses. That serves as our first case, so that the international community can understand that our medical mask and other PPEs don’t degrade so quickly with ...
We’re happy, and this is open innovation. We export the entire technology, so you own the technology. You can repurpose that for N95, R95, or things like that. I think this is just a microcosm of the kind of things that we’re offering.
The PPE will actually have three [indecipherable 2:02] in extra per day. That’s so that you can make other personal protection equipments, including the clothes, coverings, and things like that for your medical.
So that any place with sufficient amount of water supply, land use, and things like that – and that’s pretty much it – you can build a micro factory that manufactures 24 hours a day that churns out two million medical masks a day, which is 1/10th of Taiwan’s daily ...
Sure. Just recently, there was an announcement – I think it was just yesterday – that the company that makes the medical mask, Champ Mask, is exporting this whole manufacturing system, along with most of the other part of the Made in Taiwan mask national team.
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Pretty good, pretty good. Brent was here as well, Christiansen, so the three ambassadors.
Yeah, of course. Just do whatever. [laughs]
Yeah, we’ve got half an hour.
We have half an hour.
It was great, thank you.
Humor over rumor is still the best way unless you do take-down but we don’t do take-down, so humor over rumor remains the best way. I have to go to a cabinet meeting now.
Of course. If you check the mlearn.moe.gov.tw, it has material from first grade all the way to lifelong education.
In Taiwan, broadband is human right. That’s everybody, so we really need to put it into the basic education curriculum, which we did, starting last year.
They need to be responsible about checking their sources, about balancing their narratives, aware of the framing, all the training that journalists need to go through, all the media makers need to go through.
Proactive. Of course, media competence, right? Starting from age seven in the primary school, instead of teaching literacy, which is treating students as viewers and readers, teach competence, which is they are YouTubers. They are producers of media.
We don’t directly say that you have to use our model but if you choose to remain a liberal democracy, that would make us really happy.
It, obviously, also decreased our out value. It’s just like if you shut down the Internet, of course, there’s no disinformation on social media but what we’re trying to say is that Taiwan strengthened liberal democracy during the pandemic and during the infodemic. We would like to share that to ...
I’m not saying that the total lockdown, very top-down, almost no journalistic freedom model that the PRC tries to push doesn’t decrease our out value.
We really want meaningful ministerial access because unless the other countries’ top academician is also their vice president, having scientific access is not the same as the ministerial access. We will continue to share the Taiwan model like through taiwancanhelp.us, fightcovid.edu.tw with international counterparts. We have our own model.
In Brazil but they’re still going on about it. That’s the first thing. That’s been going on for ages. The second, which is, as you said, more recent is on specific topics such as the origin of the virus and things like that. For these, the Taiwan stance has always ...
There’s two things going on here. First is, as I said, it’s overt. It’s not covert. They make YouTube videos, clips, that try to push their narrative. I think that that narrative sometimes backfires like in the Viva Taiwan incident.
A narrative to push, yes.
A narrative to push.
It’s always very high, so…
To one of these fact-checkers, of course.
What’s more important is the millions of people who volunteer maybe a couple minutes of their time to flag something they think as suspicious.
Everybody contributes in their spare time, everyone who flag such a disinformation in the end-to-end encrypted channel like Line, forwarding it to Cofacts or to Dr. Message. That’s from Trend Micro, a leading antivirus company. I don’t know, but hundreds of people, at least.
I would say it’s the Taiwan model. Our model, just like when we fight coronavirus with no lockdown, we fight the infodemic with no take-down.
It’s just like learning to be amateur epidemiologist. It’s like being a amateur journalist. It shields you from this kind of narratives. When a majority of population have this exposure, this inoculation, this builds nerd immunity.