That idea of driving a government like this, has that been part of the government here for a long time, or is that something you came in with?
How did Uber adapt their model here?
You’re threatening them into behaving…
That’s because you give a signal to the market that, if the market doesn’t react on a norm that you want to form, then a law will take the place of the norm?
What are your experiences with that? Does that work?
Do you already do that?
In Germany.
The other thing is scale. Do you really think it’s possible, with an NetzDG, to moderate content on scale without exercising real censorship, because you will have to take down by AI so much without considering the context?
People to seem to panic, and they want to enforce new laws very quickly without acknowledging that it takes time to establish new norms. They do it the other way around, where there are a lot of unintended consequences.
Don’t you think that another governments have reacted too quickly? That I agree with your line of reasoning that you have to establish norms, and we are only in the beginning of establishing norms here.
Don’t you think that would be possible to do with disinformation as well, to put emphasis on social sanctions and not on law and legal sanctions, speaking about NetzDG?
What do you mean by social sanctions?
This is the first election?
How new is that? Did Facebook do this for 2018, for the local election?
That’s very new, right? The ad library is only half a year old or something.
…but Facebook as delivered the how many…
G0v, they compile it…
Just here to make sure a complete understanding, who does what in this, the g0v…
It’s a joke.
Isn’t he also a playing…He’s also a band player, isn’t he?
Does it say Freddy Lim is a good musician or not?
That’s Freddy Lim?
Do you experience that people do that?
…like the people would react to…
You found that social sanctions…
Who runs the Fact Check Center? Is that also an NGO or is it government?
Does that mean you have plans to go down the NetzDG road is shelved, that’s not seen as a viable alternative? You see this as a better alternative, which is more efficient and more in line with your democratic and open values?
You rename yourself sometimes as minister of memes?
Fun.
It’s an aggregate of all these?
You’re also free on Freedom House’s freedom of the press and freedom…
Who makes this monitor again?
Yeah.
The specific project that I work on as part of so with this delegation is more on how the worsening relationship between the US, China are debated and playing into domestic politics in Taiwan, and of course specifically this election coming up, so how the whole US-China great power competition, ...
Of course, my focus is more on the what we call traditional security, the geopolitics of it, but of course these things place into it as well, especially and when you talk cross-strait relations.
More or less some of the same topics.
…”if Merkel can do it, why can’t we.”
If they can do it.
9 out of these 13 mentioned NetzDG explicitly. Then obviously they used them for different purposes, broader purposes. It’s always good to be able to point to Germany and say…
We did a report, foreign policy last month where we look at all the countries that we could identify globally that have copied, more or less copied, the German initiative, which includes Russia, Singapore, and countries like that.
Yes.
That’s fine.
That’s fine, but could we get it before 10 days, if we want to write something?
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
In WeChat, of course, everything is controlled and all the information is checked by the China government. What would be your suggestion?
WeChat and Weibo. In Weibo, you have just reading.
Yeah, for the accounts of Weibo, not all.