The for comes from the US, data of the people, by the people, for the people, data with the people.

One, if it’s used against the people, like for my brother, or two, what if the data is wrong? It’s influenced on my dad having been in prison. It is what I worry about, data for the people.

We want to actually be fair, that if somebody has likely to have a problem of paying that mortgage or something, or that loan back, then it’s the right thing, also for that person, to not get that loan, the same to questions before.

Now, the fascinating thing is, we want companies -- say, banks -- to believe that fairness is that if somebody is a higher risk of paying back something, that we charge them a higher premium. I had lunch with the son of CP Group in Bangkok, who just allowed us ...

I am not worried about Amazon price discrimination and this. Poor Jeff Bezos had to go and testify about this. This is not what I’m worried about. I’m worried about not getting insurance at a reasonable price.

They would have said, "Ah, you did not indicate that you had back surgery before. We are not paying for that." How can we watch the watchman? How can we make sure that companies, and that’s the role, I think, of government. That’s the role of individuals.

I had back surgery 10 years ago. I was very honest when I filled out the application form. I said I had back surgery before and stuff. Had I not been honest, I probably would have been stuck with a $200,000 bill.

What if they find out that, let’s say, I have some disease, then I’m applying for a mortgage, and they say, "30 year? No. No 30 year mortgage for you. 10 years, we can do 10 years." What about health insurance? We have preexisting conditions.

I’m very glad that he grew up in Germany, where he gets health insurance. He has a place where he can live with other people. What if you can see this from DNA, maybe even before the person is born?

It’s mandatory. That was about two years ago when the discussion. There are pros and cons. What our job is as educators or as government is to make sure it’s data for the people. My older brother is mentally retarded.

If you, on the other hand, have your ID card -- and I don’t know what the situation now is in Taiwan -- where Germany, everybody has their health card. America, nobody has a health card.

The reason I wrote the book is I believe we need to move society to become more data literate. Part of that is that if you really don’t want your health data in the cloud, you have an accident, and you are unconscious, then there is no way of finding ...

Last time I was in Taiwan, there was a discussion about the -- I’m not sure I’m using the right word -- national identity card, biometrics, and health insurance, which was a very solid discussion between it all, where I personally...

OK.

Ah, yes. I thought, it’s only that many people I can remember. That’s why I missed that.

The Hong Kong guy was a mere puppet. The Korean guy with the Korean agency, the agency I visited afterwards. I actually was thinking that I did not meet the Taiwanese person.

That’s interesting, because I did a workshop for the FTC in the United States, where we had really a large number of data protection agencies from around the world. I do remember, like the candidates of the Ireland, that guy was good.

Really?

Principles or translations?

It’s the best thing we have.

Supposedly. Under the laws to come, there’s no question about that, that right now, the EU earlier this year, what was it, four percent of the overall global turnover? I’m looking forward to Facebook actually getting whipped into place by the EU. I genuinely look forward to that.

Totally. Everyone knows that.

Whereas Google said, "Well, these are our principles. If you don’t want it, then I’m sorry. We’re not providing the services." whereas Mark says, "Oh, no problem. We’ll find some backdoors for you. We’ll help you out, if you can help me out with the revenue streams from mainland."

I know Larry quite well, and it’s just pushing them. I’m not worried about Google much. I’m worried about Facebook big time. I know Mark somehow, and that’s a very different game from Google, how they, for instance, collaborate with the Chinese.

As the Harvard professor said it, they have enormous responsibility to try to allow us to get more, not a way from full six degrees, but maybe two degree of the world, as opposed to .1 percent of a degree of the world.

There, I gave a talk at Google earlier this year, which is on the web. At the end, it’s very interesting that they cut that out. I ended by saying Google has enormous responsibility of they shape, they do the ways of world-making.

For me, all the same thing, reality, as such, we have no way of knowing. We only know it mediated through the senses.

I would argue there, and that’s why I mentioned Plato. You could also mention Immanuel Kant, on having these categories of how we perceive things. You could mention quantum mechanics, that we only can observe eigenvalues to the operator.

Yes, you know it? She is great. Just by exposing what companies know, what companies do, what the government knows, what the government does, I think she is doing a great job as a journalist.

I was at TED, and there was a random woman who were coming up to me across the hall, and say, "Andreas." "Oh, Manoush," when I read her name tag. They have some people who really...I’m not sure whether you know the show. It’s called Notes to Self. Have you ...

The only reason I did this, that Manoush had done a show before with Cambridge Analytica. That was the best piece I have seen about something I have spent a lot of time reading about. She really was good, so that’s why I decided on that.

Then that day, when I had the San Francisco rehearsal all signed up, I was asked to be at KQED, which is the public radio station in San Francisco, at noon. I had to leave at intermission, because I was going to do a recording with the East Coast with ...

Take Cambridge Analytica. One of the most exciting conversations I had was with a woman like Lisa at TED this year. I play the cello, and I managed to have the idea that I could go to a rehearsal. I went to a couple of rehearsals this year, one with ...

Yeah.

As I said before, it’s maybe .1 percent difference we can make by opening up data, by embracing transparency, by creating accountability, including for my staff, by the way or me.

Yesterday, I talked about the Facebook wall in parallel to Plato. You know Plato, the allegory of the cave, the wall there, that the world we see is just the world that Google or Facebook, etc., actually want us to see.

I was the first US citizen who Putin congratulated to the election. I had no idea that Putin knew more than probably anybody else I knew about what had gone on. It is, for me, a fascinating world about data, about manipulation.

Maybe one more story about data, yesterday, we Googled Putin and Weigend, when you Google this, all the top hits are pictures of Vladimir Putin and me on November 10th last year. That was the day after the election.

He said, "Andreas, if you give," I think it was like, "10,000 bucks to some GLBTQ organization, then good things will happen." I told him, "Yes, do that before the end of the year," because this has been a tough year in the US.

I just told my friend, my accountant, Daniel Bao, who is an amazing person who went to Stanford together with Reid Hoffman. He used to run National Condom Week, so he is a person gets things done.

How some person thinking that he is doing the right thing for the United States of America by not letting a person in based on an app that person has on their phone. This is not fantasy. That was happening.

The sad thing is, that immigration officer thought he was doing the right thing for the country by not letting the person in, so it was only Brad and me who took the hike. We reflected on how citizenship, or the right to travel, let’s say.

Brad, a smart, wonderful person, me, both reasonable people, our third friend, just as reasonable as us was barred entry to the United States because some immigration officer looked at his mobile, and found some gay dating app.

If you Google Andreas Weigend, nothing will come up. That would suck, but we will find ways around it. That’s why, compared to the government, where...I was going to take a hike a couple of months ago with my friend, Brad Rubenstein.

Not much, not much of a problem, what can Amazon do? They can stop shipping things to me. OK, I’ll find other ways. What can Google do? They can stop my email, my Gmail. I’ll go find. They can even delete my entry in the database.

What’s the worst a company can do? They can delete my account. It would suck, but I by mistake lost my YouTube channel this year. I have been through that. Not happily, but I survived it. It cost me a few weeks of my life, and nothing is back up ...

It’s not a, "Here’s a dump of a few zeros and ones into a binary file." No, I need to understand Google Latitude, helps me understand my geolocation. I love that. I think that, for me, is empowering people against often what I call the industrial military complex.

The law is that you have to prevent it, and provide it in a format that is understandable, that they can really make sense out of it.

You have an app out of Taiwan which can download from the German app store, and the German citizen is using it. What does that mean? I am personally extremely excited to see that there will be massive action for Facebook in May next year, when German people will get ...

It’s surprising, like the right to port data. That’s very, very similar. I just went to New York for a couple of days this month to speak at an event on both the impact of this for American firms or for international firms doing business.