太好了——謝謝。我會把即將發佈的 International Journal of Communication 徵稿通知分享給你。

在如此龐大的民間投資下，實驗室真的會參與嗎？

也有人主張應該徹底停止 AI——風險無法處理。你怎麼回應？

你認為兩派會收斂嗎？

還有什麼重要的點我們沒談到？

民主國家準備好了嗎——還是這是一大挑戰？

社會影響——決策、工作、意義？

人類溝通會有什麼改變？

在第三部分，我想更細談你的 AI 觀點。你如何界定今天的 AI——未來又會如何改變？

談些超驗辯題——AGI、超級智慧、取代——你的倫理視角是什麼？

那中國的角色呢？

所謂「AI 競賽」——美國 vs. 中國與其他國家呢？

產業也似乎在收斂（例如 OpenAI）以尋找可持續的商業模式。這不會與學界與公民社會的開放取向衝突嗎？

開源 AI——開放不就和安全衝突嗎？

有效利他主義因過度聚焦生存風險而受批評，也遭逢資金震盪。你現在怎麼看？

今天塑造 AI 想像的主要行動者是誰——機構、公司、運動？

當我讀你們的合著《Plurality》時，AI 感覺像是一個賦能的層，而不是焦點。本書的理念與 AI 有何關聯？

我想把訪談分成三個部分：你的背景；AI 的想像圖景；以及你對 AI 的具體視角。先從你的進路開始——你是如何走到今天關於 AI 的辯論現場的？

太好了。如你所知，我們正在探索「AI 的想像圖景」（imaginative landscape of AI）。所謂「AI 的想像圖景」，指的是圍繞 AI 所出現的各種願景、立場與衝突的整體——尤其是因這項新興科技而近年新生的觀點。從我們的角度看，「AI 的想像圖景」不只是技術面，還包括關於 AI 與傳播、社會未來的更宏觀理念，以及對人類可能造成的風險。基於你多元的經驗，我們特別想理解你對此圖景的看法。

哈囉——你好嗎？你看起來比我早了一天。可以開始錄音嗎？

Perfect—thank you. I’ll share the upcoming <strong> International Journal of Communication </strong> call for papers.

With the scale of private investment, will labs actually participate?

Some argue for stopping AI entirely—risks can’t be handled. What do you think about that?

Do you see the camps converging?

We have already discussed various dimensions of AI. Is there anything we haven’t covered yet?

Are democracies prepared—or is this a major challenge?

What are the societal implications for you—decision‑making, work, meaning?

What changes do you expect in human communication?

In the third part, I would like to talk with you in more detail about your perspective on AI. How do you define AI today—and how will that change?

On transcendental debates—AGI, superintelligence, replacement—what’s your ethical lens?

And China’s position?

What about the “AI race”—U.S. vs. China and others?

Industry also seems to be closing up (for example, OpenAI) to find sustainable business models. Doesn’t that clash with open approaches in academia and civil society?

And open‑source AI—doesn’t openness conflict with safety?

Effective altruism has been criticized for a narrow focus on existential risk—and it faced funding shocks. How do you see it now?

Now for the second part of my questions: Who are the main actors shaping today’s imaginative landscape of AI — institutions, companies, movements?

When I read your collaborative book <strong><em> Plurality </em></strong> , AI felt like an enabling layer rather than the focus. How does AI relate to the book’s ideas?

Great. As you know, we are exploring the “imaginative landscape of AI”. By “imaginative landscape of AI,” we mean the entirety of visions, positions, and conflicts seen in relation to AI—especially the relatively novel ones that have developed in relation to this emerging technology. From our point of view, the ...

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