So building and investing in these new technologies, emerging technologies that governments cannot control, is one way. And of course, expanding that using those P2P, peer-to-peer technologies, to build this autonomous infrastructure so people can own their data, express themselves freely, stay anonymous, and also get their voice out and ...

And of course, the price is still an issue for those censored countries, the global south, the price of subscription of these technologies. Of course, this could be subsidized by democratic nations, as they did with the internet in the early days, by developing and expanding the technology in subsidized ...

There is another war in those censored countries, where the iron curtain is brought up. And these satellite technologies—it’s not just Starlink right now, because of the prevalence of Starlink, everybody talks about Starlink. Amazon is developing its Kuiper technology. Europeans, they have OneWeb technology. We have to do advocacy, ...

Of course. Besides making your data autonomous so you can carry your data everywhere, of course you need an infrastructure that is also autonomous. And we saw in the previous panels, it was discussed, that topic in the war in Ukraine. The internet infrastructure was highly needed in the front ...

We’ve been more on the defense side. I think we need to be more proactive and on the offensive side, as you mentioned during your closing remarks at the World Liberty Congress. So we have to be on offense. We have to reclaim the internet infrastructure. We have to also ...

And we saw the result of that during the past, uh, twelve days. Despite the total shutdown of the internet, the information outflow still existed. So there are many ways, including building circumvention tools and as well as reclaiming internet infrastructure from the government, to build that digital resilience that ...

For instance in Iran, during the Women, Life, Freedom movement, despite all the punishments that are for using these VPN tools and satellite internet, people came up with the resources and the creativity to bring Starlink and crack this wall and chip away this censorship wall, bite by bite, and ...

And people, coming from the experience in Iran, have come together to build autonomous infrastructure, building tools to circumvent the censorship. It’s a cat-and-mouse game. Constantly, they are coming up with new tools to censor the internet, building these firewalls. And people are uniting together, building circumvention tools and building ...

Well, I can speak for hours about the ideas. We are coming from the countries that the governments, recently in the past few decades, where the internet has been supposed to be the square for free speech, right? It has become a tool of control. And they’re shutting down the ...