Basically, you can be socially active and exert political pressure but still remaining firmly on the social sector instead of engaging with the public sector. The social sector engagement, I think it’s very active but it’s a new trend. It only started, I think, around 2014. Before 2014, it’s not hip to talk about politics, to talk about party politics, I mean like marriage equality, human rights, refugees, I don’t know, plastic waste, climate change. It’s not considered hip. It’s considered niche.

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