The usual response which we gave in our very first meeting in the hackathon is that we don’t. We only talk about laws that has Internet users as there only stakeholders. The idea is not deliberative democracy, the idea is a town hall meeting, as if the Internet users are a small town negotiating with the national government about things that concern this town’s development. So basically we don’t take any debate points like “gay marriage”. The jurisdiction ministry very much wants us to talk about gay marriage because they really cannot get consensus on this matter in Taiwan. We refused again and again because there is no correlation with gay and internet use. We cannot say that this is about internet stakeholders. We keep saying no. By the end of the deliberation period a lot more ministries see the power of this model, and we will keep saying no.