[laughs] Thank you very much.
Yes, you probably... [laughs]
That’s quite interesting because you say that each case is quite different as it is. How would you define the kind of benchmarks, for want of a better word, or what are your parameters of success for each and how do you define that? How do you see...
That’s very interesting. Do you have any sort of approaches that you use to evaluate each of these initiatives?
This network, would they do projects that are, say, independent of your team? If they have specific issues or they...
Do they work with you on...?
This network, their core objective is, essentially, to engage citizens in different policy areas that have run into that?
I’m guessing there’s a lot of exchange of ideas and information across this network as well. It’s not siloed within your ministry or anything.
That you have a structure in place that kind of encourages it.
When you talk about the participation officer’s network, this, I’m guessing, is one of the enablers of citizen engagement?
You mentioned just there that the government has to act, and it makes me wonder to what extent is that binding, to what extent do the government ministries feel they have to act, or how do they integrate that into the way they work?
You’re keeping an ear to the ground so you can pick up on the signals, and then amplify them?
A lot of the discussion and the way it’s measured, globally, is citizen’s trust in government. Often the other part that is left out is how much they feel government trusts them.
It’s very interesting because we’ve been within kind of counter public...My boss and I have been kind of thinking about how to measure a city’s engagement. One of the core foundational principles of how we went about it is that trust is a two-way street.
That’s quite interesting that you get them to the same starting point, and then that becomes your foundation rather than the different positions that they start from.
How do you do it in a more democratic way? When people raise their issues, how do you choose which ones to prioritize? That must be...
To drive this forward, what do you think are the biggest enablers? What do you think have been the biggest enablers for you in driving this forward successfully?
That’s very interesting. Are there situations where you have to engage only experts or people in the know at a first level, and then go onto a wider community? Have you ever had to do something...?
Related to that is, because you’re using a lot of technology, does it require that most people are digitally literate, comfortable, and able to use platforms like this?
Was it difficult to get this implemented, by pitching and using Slido, and professionally using it?
How does the feeding back into the stakeholder discussion work? Are there certain points that are programmed?
How do you go about doing that? How do you go about building the bridges between different cultural interpretations and getting people at the same level?
A question for my own, because what you’re bringing is these really fundamental principles of open Internet. How has that been taken from the government side, which can be a bit more traditional and classic?