It’s important because then just being situated in, for example, a ruin of the previous Air Force headquarter and have a meaningful conversation about how beautiful we’re going to make into a Social Innovation Lab or a park, and being able to share those visions to other people in the ...
Yeah, you can. They also offered to do a model of the cabinet office for me.
Yes, and you can use this to 3D-scan the room you’re in.
Then actually the R value, the basic transmission rate of the co-presence will grow. That’s the essential argument I made in the piece that Michael referred.
If there are the selfies, like the one I just shared, that can convey some sort of the meaning, or if there are access to this kind of devices, where anyone who was not part of the conversation can just put it on and put themself in the shoes of ...
The ultimate question is not how to make harmony or social understanding in the deliberative space, but what can you bring out of the deliberative space to your respective communities?
I think it’s the co-presence that I alluded to when Michael talk about civic space for deliberation, because the ultimate question for all those sortitions, civic assemblies, participatory budgeting, town halls.
Even if you saw that, I don’t think it’s the same, though, because it’s the co-presence. The experience of floating together across the mountain range, like in a helicopter ride, minus the noise. [laughs]
Yeah, that’s the overview effect. People go to space, come back to Earth, become a better person. [laughs]
Yes.
Actually, you get to see the selfie. The selfie is different. I don’t think they broadcasted the selfie. It may be worth your time to download and see from the 10th second to maybe the 40th second, for just half a minute.
That’s right, except for the parts where the connection dropped or that the screencast doesn’t work, but yes.
The recording was a recording from the side. The large file, the hertz, almost 200 megabytes file, is a recording from their perspective in XRSPACE. If you download it, you can see it from the observer’s perspective.
What was it? I would say it’s the Taiwan model, as in fashion model. It’s an actual hashtag that we use.
This style of what, of costume?
[laughs] Right. That’s right. Michael, you’re muted.
Yeah, this was a monocle. They had a monocle version as well, to fit with the monocle theme. It turns out that in VR, monocles doesn’t look as hip as in real life, because it just will look like I’m missing one side of the glass. This is the monocle ...
Yeah, it’s not the same glass. It’s roughly based on this picture.
Yes. It’s roughly based on a previous photo that I took with random people on Twitter that says, “Can I take a photo of you?” They just bring me this outfit.
My avatar, they customized one for me. They already have the two-dimensional renderings, but they are still doing the 3D. I think the technical word for it is the inverse kinetics. Yeah, you can see it in two dimension here. I pasted on Skype. They are still working on making ...
OK, of course. Thank you so much for your help. Thank you.
And off we go.
Thank you. Next time, I will show up as my avatar, instead of my colleagues. OK, cheers. Bye. [laughs]
OK, bye.
That’s right, yes, exactly. OK. Thank you, cheers.
Unity is good enough. Unity is good enough for our purpose.
Is it always Unity3D, or are there other dev kits?
It’s only Unity3D, or is there any other toolkits that you support?
It’s just like a regular YouTube upload, yeah.
I know. You have to fill in with your imagination. I’m able actually to change seats in midair, so I can now stand, or rather, closer to Michael. We’re just admiring the ability of the snow-covered mountain range. That’s really the only thing I wanted to show. I don’t have ...
They would look like we are all floating in midair, but we just have to imagine that we’re looking [laughs] at the mountain ranges, the lake, and so on. Those doesn’t translate to the image. [laughs] I am sorry about it.
Ooh. Now, this is good. Michael, I was having something around this in mind. When I talked about the possibility of getting the 3D sculpture and/or poetry, but against a background that is not…
Wow. This is something. Wow. This is of a slightly higher resolution than we last watched this. I’m happy.
Maybe let’s try a 360 one?
That’s fine.
Maybe restart the…Because that’s the part that I would like Yngve to see. We’re back.
It’s pretty good. I fully expect that I will start walking backwards now as the blue team. Anyway, we see this cinema invitation and I’m clicking at that. I’m in. The screen share is frozen again. I think Yngve is not seeing any of these actions.
It’s the two of us here. We will go to the cinema, I think, sometimes. I just literally saw TENET a couple of days ago.
OK.
…movie rooms so that we can feel that we are hovering above a waterfall or something.
Can you bring us to one of those 360…
Yeah. Of course. Yes. I see the selfie now. Yeah, OK. That’s great. [laughs] That’s not too bad. OK. I’ll do the other way around. Like this. Three, two, and one. That worked pretty well.
Is the selfie screen actually visible to Yngve or not?
Yeah, you just did that. Uh-huh. I would now take a picture of you with this selfie machine.
Then you can laugh out loud or…
Yeah, you will see a hexagon.
Raise your palm back against yourself. You hold your hand facing yourself and then you put your hands together. Clench your against your own face.
I added you as a friend, Michael, whatever that means. It means that I can high five you, hug you, and so on. OK. That’s great.